First red flag....6:29 'The co-pilot arrives 10 mins before the aircraft doors close to fly a complex, high performance aircraft with a PIC he's never met before?!! Excessively cavalier behaviour is an understatement!
Worse than an inexperienced captain at the controls, it is a second pilot in the cockpit who waits for his colleague to make a mistake to predominate in the control of the aircraft, but in an even more incompetent way. This is a terrible combination.
Imagine being a passenger on a flight with two pilots arguing in the cockpit over basic piloting stuff. Mindblowing.
This channel has convinced me of nothing else that I will forever fly commercial and never private charters
Brett is a tragic example of why you should never give narcissistic personality disorder a yoke.
As a young pilot I used to fly anything that came my way in effort to build time and make money, including ferry flights. One of these flights was a Mitsubishi MU-2 from Florida to the Bahamas (short flight). I was sitting in the right seat mostly handling the radios with a “hot shot” pilot on the left seat. I immediately got the sense that the pic was arrogant and thought he was the smartest person in the room at all times. Luckily one of my pilot friends at Fort Lauderdale Executive (who also happened to be my flight instructor in the past) warned me about the dude and as a parting tip told me “…do not slip with flaps down on the mu2… it will drop like a rock… if you are high on the approach go around”. The reason I am writing this comment today was bc my friend told me this and sure enough we were high on the approach and the hot shot pic went to slip without saying anything (I felt the rudder and the yoke move towards the slip even when I had voiced my concerns and referred to the POH). I told him go around immediately and he ignored me so I advanced the throttles and held level and forced the go around. He chewed me out on the ground afterwards but I didn’t give a f*. I was alive. I refused to fly back on the Cessna we were to pick with him and hitched another flight with a cargo plane to Florida. The guy who contracted us laughed at the incident when I told him and that was the last time I flew with any of those morons.
If Bret would've just been a bit more humble, admit he was wrong about the VFR conditions, and actually help the pilot they would most likely all still be alive today. Ego has gotten many a man killed.
Bret: “I’ll show this guy who’s the boss, even if we crash.”
Would love to hear more about Brett’s flying history. Bet there are some gems
I am a safety professional. Although I am not assigned in the aviation field, I learn so much that enhances my professional skill set from these videos.
I’ve read this entire mishap report and CVR transcript and it is the worst thing at 0:59 seconds before impact when the FO mockingly tells the CA “we don’t want to be on the news.” He’s the one who put them into the ground.
If you're an arrogant, selfish, Think-You-know-it-all pilot, it's just a matter of time till your video is on Pilot Debrief.
I wonder why Brett, "the stellar airman", was reduced to flying as a sub-contractor in a small company. What an immature and dangerous individual.
In 20 years as a USAF pilot in C-130 and B-52, I never had an AC choose to gloss over or ignore proper checklist so as CP I never felt it necessary to correct them. As AC, I never ignored the proper checklist and never had CP needing to correct me because I decided their life wasn't priceless. Imagine putting a young "El-Tee" in that position as a major or a captain with some time under your belt. Not saying we had flawless missions, just that we all followed procedure to the letter. I know of a few times where CP had to remind AC of something but never to the point where they quarreled. I could write out the checklists from memory but had them out every single time, acknowledging every item. If I was flying with someone for the first time, I explained that's what I would be doing so I wasn't seen as novice or had a confidence problem. I found that this actually gives you a high level of confidence to do this. You don't second guess yourself after the fact if you deliberately make each item as essential as you can. Just a tip an IP gave me when I was in training and something I took to heart as if my life depended on it. I thought about all the effort that went into each item, how horrible events led to the review of them and appreciated all that knowledge was sitting in my lap. I know I was fortunate, 1 IFE for an electrical issue, a very uneventful career. Made some crap landings but I learned from them. These videos are extremely well done and all very fair evaluations of what happened. It takes a little humility and good character for someone with so much knowledge to approach these events in this manner. Many kudos to Pilot Debrief as humility and character seem to be endangered species.
Even with Alberto's lack of experience/tendency to rush and Brett's controlling/rushing, the one thing that could have saved this is to simply ask for a delay vector to get set up and fully brief the approach. But that takes 2 things. 1. No ego. 2. No rushing. They would have seen the minimums/benefit to straight in 11, they would have been at the right altitude and airspeed and they would have worked out any questions/disagreements. Any threats could have been verbalized and resolved. So many accidents could be avoided by these. No ego. Don't rush.
The saddest thing to me about these debriefs, is sometimes I think you are going over an accident again that you already covered--and then I realize you aren't. 🤦‍♂ Many people REFUSE to learn from other peoples' mistakes.
If I had to guess, Brett stepped on that plane telling him himself, he was the captain he was in charge
I deal with contract pilots regularly. This type of just in-time show and pilot disagreement happens frequently. It’s amazing more crashes like this don’t occur more frequently. It’s a testament to the safety of the aircraft & airspace.
I used to fly with a guy that had decent physical piloting skills but terrible piloting judgement (once ran out of fuel while taxiing because fuel selector was off, on another occasion forgot to re-install fuel caps on a c-172 and flew a lap of the pattern with fuel streaming from the tops of both wings). Anyway, I noticed that when we flew together with me as PIC the plane often had strange ground handling behavior on landing. Turns out he was working the rudder pedals and brakes while I was landing. Once I figured out what was going on, I warned all the other pilots that flew with him and I would only allow him to sit in the front seat if his seat was adjust back far enough that he couldn't reach the pedals. Otherwise I would not fly with him. He doesn't fly anymore (lost medical).
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